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Is it possible to live Forever?

By lotit2000 at Oct. 15, 2013, 7:01 a.m., 5823 hits


This presentation will be based on the most recent knowledge of microanatomy and molecular physiology. This knowledge is not the form of science used by drug manufacturers, but a discipline of science that defines the way living tissues and organs within the human body function naturally; and how faulty tissues can be repaired using “natural spare parts” from the plant kingdom.
It is common knowledge that we need to constantly breathe air, with its 21% oxygen content to stay alive. Oxygen is the molecule of life for us aerobic creatures. The oxygen is delivered into the thousands of mitochondria within our cells.

At the Buck Institute, USA , their “Advancing Age Research program,” focused on mitochondrial, oxidative stress .
This program revealed that 90% of the oxygen humans consume is used inside the mitochondria power plant, to generate ATP, the main energy source of the cell. Unfortunately some undesirable side products called FREE OXYGEN RADICALS are also generated during this process of oxidation. (The peroxyl radical is the most common free radical in human biology, but the hydroxyl radical, hydroxyperoxide, superoxide and peroxynitrite anions , just to mention a few, are also produced.)
These are unstable, rouge molecules that aggressively seek to steal electrons from other molecules or atoms within the cell, in an attempt to stabilize themselves. In this way, free oxygen radicals cause extensive damages to intra cellular PROTEINS, DNA, RNA, GENES, LIPIDS on the cell membrane and other essential molecules. The Mitochondria themselves are not spared. And as these intracellular damages accumulate, the wear and tear of our microanatomy and the deterioration of our physiology lead us deeper into the world of diseases and ageing, intensive production of substances called natural Super Antioxidants, goes on in the cells, at locations just around the mitochondria. They neutralize the effects of the free radicals as they come out of the mitochondria, by freely donating electrons to them.

From Within: As natural byproducts of biochemical oxidations occurring in normal metabolic functions within us.
The more food we eat, the more free radicals we generate, the more physical activities we execute, the more oxygen we consume, and the more FREE OXYGEN RADICALS we will generate.
From Outside: Chemicals and pollutants in the food, medicines and all other things we ingest; Natural radiation, pesticides, air pollutants, fried foods, alcohol, tobacco smoke and most of those things we are exposed to, generate Free Oxygen Radicals in us.
Researchers at the Buck Institute are convinced that uncontrolled free oxygen radical activities in the body, are directly associated with a host of health problems. For example, an ageing immune system bombarded for so long by Free Radicals, goes awry and no longer functions efficiently, sometimes attacking own tissues, like we see in Rheumatism .

* Take for example the Shrew, a small rat that goes along with 500 heartbeats per minute, consumes so much oxygen and produces so much free radicals that destroy most of its intracellular molecules leaving the poor shrew dead within 2yrs. It was discovered that the cells of this poor animal produce relatively little quantity of natural antioxidants, to combat
the menace of the enormous quantity of free radicals its hyperactivity generates.
* Forensic Pathologist Dr. Dick Shepherd of a Pathology unit in London has identified and documented the numerous signs of oxygen damage in our organs and tissues. In the lungs the damages caused by tobacco smoke and air pollutants have been documented; the arteriosclerotic plaque deposits within the aorta and large arteries are clearly demonstrable.
The plaques result mainly from oxidation of the LDL-cholesterol materials deposited within the endothelium of the arteries.
Here are just a few of the many diseases and disorders in which free oxygen radicals have been implicated.
Age Spot, Ageing, Allergies, Alzheimer’s Disease, Angina, Arthritis, Asthma, Arteriosclerosis, Bleeding Gums, Cancer, Cataracts, Circulation Problems, Cirrhosis, Diabetes Type II, Dry Skin, Fatigue, Hay Fever, Heart Attacks, Hemorrhoids, Hypertension, Inflamed Tissues- Jet Lag- Kidney Damage, Leukemia Liver Damage, Male Sexual Inadequacy, Memory Loss, Menstrual Disorders Migraine Headaches, Multiple Sclerosis, Night Blindness,
Parkinson’s Disease, Phlebitis, Prostate Problems- Psoriasis, Retinopathy Rheumatism, senility, Skin Cancers, Varicose Veins, Wrinkling of the Skin.

The break-through that caused medical scientists really to look seriously at FREE OXYGEN RADICALS, was the astonishing discovery that the body produces large quantities of substances called super antioxidants to neutralize the dangerous FREE RADICALS .
1. SuperOxide Dismutase (SOD) is one of the super antioxidants or super FREE RADICAL SCAVENGERS which convert the FREE RADICALS into Hydrogen Peroxide
2. CATALASE and GLUTATHIONE PEROXIDASE are the other super antioxidants that reduce the hydrogen peroxide to water.
3. So it seems that as long as our cells manufacture enough natural super antioxidants to mop up the free radicals, everything progresses, as planned by the genes. It is these free radicals that destroy our cells, our mitochondria, our genes, our DNA, RNA and LIPIDS on the cell membrane, forcing ageing and diseases on us.
1. The popular 2 mice experiment, clearly confirms the assertion. The white, fat mouse ate superfluously, generated lots of free radicals and died just before age 2yrs. The brown slim mouse ate minimally, generated lesser free radicals and lived on to the ripe age of 3 1/2 yrs.
2. To generate lesser free radicals, with the hope of living healthier and longer, one 42year- old male, Briton. Mr. Michael Young restrained his food intake to about 1500 calories of vegetarian based diet daily, with high fruit and vegetable content. After 3yrs on the program, he was recently examined at the Institute of Human Ageing in Liverpool University and hardly any degenerative disease of ageing was detected in him. Thanks to the minimal Free Radicals generated.
.3. Faster heartbeats result in Faster production of free radicals and shorter life span. While Slower heartbeats result in Slower production of free radicals and longer life span. Thus, the elephant with 30 heartbeats per minute lives for about 80yrs, while Harriet the tortoise with about 17 heartbeats per minute is still alive at 170yrs.

A predominantly plant based diet reduces the risk for development of several chronic diseases. It is often assumed that antioxidants contribute to this protection, but results with single antioxidants administered as supplements ( e.g. Vit. E alone ) quite consistently do not support any benefit.
In the plant kingdom, plant polyphenols (TANNINS, FLAVONOIDS CATECHINS) are responsible for the antioxidant properties they possess. The better-known plant polyphenols with potent Anti-oxidant-properties are oligomeric and polymeric Proanthocyanidins, Antho-cyanidins, Apigenidin, Proapigenidin, There are hundreds of antioxidant compounds in most plants, and the total antioxidant capacity of a given plant is the integrated action from different compounds within the plant, instead of that from a single compound.
Processing, especially cooking of food, is generally regarded as being destructive to antioxidant compounds.

Well-documented studies on the potent antioxidant effects of plant polyphenols have been done in various Centers all over the world.
* The University of Bordeaux in France, (Prof. Jacques Masquelier)
* The Pasteur Institute also in France.
* Horphag Research Ltd. USA.
* The Huntington Institute USA.
* The Buck Institute in Novato, USA.,
* National Institute on Aging in Baltimore, MD; USA
* USDA Human Nutrition Research Centre on Aging -Tufts University Boston USA.
* College of Medicine University of Lagos. Idiaraba Lagos Nigeria.


Scientists at the Buck Institute USA, after realizing the unique properties of antioxidants in human and animal life, culminated their research work with the manufacturing of the most powerful antioxidant yet known to man; the mother of all anti-oxidants; the real elixir of life, The Synthetic Catalytic Scavenger (SCS).
It has so far been administered to worms, mice, rats and guinea pigs, and for the first time, in the history of the study of ageing, SCS was shown to directly increase the life span of an animal. It will soon be tried on man.

CLINICAL OBSERVATIONS ON THE USE OF ANTI-OXIDANTS: (Based on standard clinical, double blind tests)
1. Antioxidants have a dramatic affinity for vascular tissue and several clinical trials have confirmed their beneficial effects in treating vascular disorders like varicose veins, venous insufficiency, capillary fragility and Retinopathies.
2. Management of cardiovascular diseases, Hypertension.
3. Control of LDL- cholesterol by inhibition of lipid peroxidation.
4. Selective cyto-toxicity for cancerous cells. Antioxidants have been shown to up- regulate the apoptosis – promoter genes in cancerous cells. Apoptosis means programmed cell death.
5. Inhibitory effect on HIV infection in vitro and in vivo. Recent research indicate that antioxidants express TAC-dependent suppression of HIV binding to chemokine receptors 2b, 3 and 5 found on immunocompetent peripheral blood mononuclear cells (PBMC), thus preventing HIV infection.
6. A potential therapeutic tool in dermal wound healing by stimulation of vascular endothelial growth factor.
7. Management of Insulin resistance.
8. Penetrates the blood-brain barrier, mops up the free radicals there, mostly peroxynitrite
anions. Thus inhibiting numerous neurodegenerative diseases, like Alzheimer’s disease.
9. Prevention of Hepatic and Renal toxicity in acetaminophen & other drug poisonings
10. Improves symptoms of Systemic Lupus Erythematosus (SLE.)
11. Protects the microvasculature of the Retina. Increases regeneration of rhodopsin, thus improves visual acuity.

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Posts [ 13 ] | Last post Oct. 15, 2013, 7:01 a.m.
#1 - Jan. 5, 2011, 1:23 a.m.

Antioxidants play an important role to make us strong and healthy…There are lots of anti aging antioxidant variety available in the market.

#2 - Jan. 6, 2011, 5:46 p.m.

Qigong for Longevity

Qigong (Chi Kung) is a Chinese medical therapy thousands of years old. It consists of mental as well as physical maneuvering which simultaneously adjust body posture, breathing, and the mind. Qigong for health is not strenuous and can even be performed by handicapped people. It can be done anywhere, at any time, and requires no special clothing or equipment. Qigong is practiced by millions of people worldwide.

The star of the TV show “The Doctor OZ Show” stated, “If you want to be healthy and live to 100, do Qigong.” Dr. Oz was not just making wild speculations. Recent research has found a way to predict and increase your life span. Tips of chromosomes are called telomeres. These protective caps, made of repetitive chunks of DNA, keep the rest of the gene-laden chromosomes from disastrously unraveling. Telomeres length has been linked to life span. Longer telomeres have been associated with longer lives and vice versa. A cell’s telomeres shorten a bit each time that the cell divides. Telomeres length is decreased by stress and can be increased by reducing stress!

Conferences on the scientific study of Qigong have been held in the U.S. and China. Qigong has been shown to improve respiration, induce the relaxation response, cause favorable changes in blood chemistry, and produce changes in EEG indicating improved mental states. Clinical trials have shown the efficacy of Qigong in reducing stress, delaying aging effects, prolonging life, preventing illness and curing many chronic diseases including paralysis and cancer.

Not only can Qigong increase longevity, but also the quality of life. One scientific survey of aged practitioners revealed that they were in good health and appeared younger than a second group of non-practitioners. Their average blood pressure was normal and 93% had normal hearing and good memories. The non-practicing elders had a higher average blood pressure, 25% had hypertension, 50% had vision problems, 76% had hearing problems and 35% had lost their ability to work. After doing Qigong for 5 months, 52% of them could work & made significant physiological improvements.

Qigong for health is excellent for seniors or the physically challenged. It can be done any- where lying, sitting or standing. No equipment is needed. Very little flexibility and coordination are required, making it easier to learn than Yoga. Pilates or Tai Chi. See

for more information on Qigong.

The Chinese have been studying how to increase longevity for thousands of years. In fact, Yang Sheng, the science of nurturing life, is taught in Tradional Chinese Medical Schools - see

for an introduction to Yang Sheng.

#3 - Jan. 10, 2011, 1:22 p.m.

Hello nice thread. very useful information you have given on health and life care. Thanks for sharing such useful information. Take care.

#4 - Jan. 15, 2011, 12:37 p.m.

Nice post. So any idea how one can get onto these trials?
As a former Olympic athlete I was extreemly fit until my mid 40's when I had my first heart attack. Information provided by the main streem health service was both conflicting and non-sensicle. I din't fit into any of their ‘at risk’ types yet I had up to 40% aterial blockage. 10 yrs later I had a 2nd heart attck a main artery which would have killed me except for the fact that my by lateral arteries, enlarged to the size of main arteries due to many years of caridac trainng, came to my rescue. They didn't opperate as they said that The arteries had in effect made their own byass. I am now 58 and apart from angina when working or exercising in the cold, I can still outwork those 20yrs younger than me but I'm acutely aware of how poor this level of fitness is for me! Stress causes a lot of free radicals and this is most likely the cause of my problem. Until my 1st attack I could regulate my heart rate and BP at will, lowering HR to 40bpm or raising it to 120bpm just from mental application. I could drop 20 points on BP within 30 seconds and ‘switch off’ pain receptors to control pain during competition. I could suppress adrenalin release to control agression and keep ‘cool’ under pressure, but I think all this has taken its toll causing stress and free radical damage. Time for me is running out.

#5 - Feb. 7, 2011, 11 a.m.

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#6 - April 18, 2011, 10:44 p.m.
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We can't live forever if the air we breath keeps becoming more toxic by the year! (great post!)

#7 - May 25, 2011, 1:57 a.m.

its not possible to live forever but we can try to live as much as we can in a given life time by the god grace……..

#8 - May 28, 2011, 2:51 a.m.

Living forever is not very likely even if you do not age, when you consider that aging is only one of many things that people die from (also accidents, guns, lightning, etc…) As far as aging goes, this is something that has already been overcome to a very significant extent (how completely it has been overcome, only time will tell)by the science of telomerase activation (see

#9 - June 13, 2011, 5:21 a.m.


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#10 - July 30, 2011, 6:50 a.m.

it may be possible to live for a very long time, but try and understand what forever really is, nothing can last forever, it's just plain impossible.

about your idea, it wouldn't work because if we remained exactly the same forever then we would just be thinking the same thought, or even fragment of a thought, over and over again.
sure, it's not even necessary to do all that , asll we really have to do is find the key in our cells that causes them to “self destruct” and allow them to keep repairing indefinitely. Far far easier than replacing individual atoms for a long time.

Eternity is not possible though, eventually the earth will be gone as well as all planets. All protons will eventually decay as well.
Thermodynamics says it's impossible. As eventually even atoms will break down and be absorbed.

Forevers a Big word.

But I suppose, in theory, a few billion years may be possible.

Though my bet is, after a few hundred thousand years…you'd kill yourself.